I'm not the first person to report this but I wanted to get multiple confirmations before jumping into things....Tom Welling has just recently (within the last 10 days) joined Erica Durance in signing the dotted line for another season. What took so long?? The suit. It appears that Welling truly does not want to wear tights for some reason. According to show producer Brian Peterson, convincing Welling to put on tights has been a multi-year discussion that has not gotten very far. This sort of confirmation unfortunately ruins any hope of him being the next big screen Superman.
So that's a confirmation of no tights then for Season 9?
ReplyDeleteWell, if he's worried about being typecast, he's ALREADY that! He might as well capitalize on the position he has in the Superman mythos & make some BIG BUCKS off of it. I would! I mean, a multi-picture deal, & he could certainly get more money than BJ Routhman. There could also be various marketing & merchandising. IF Welling can't see this, he's blind!
ReplyDeleteGo on Welling, do your NEXT big Hollywood epic. Cheaper by the Dozen & Fog sequels? Maybe go the route of all these actors like were on One Tree Hill & Dawson's Creek, i.e., doing the latest LOW BUDGET slasher flick? Hey, even Michael Rosenbaum did that! Just check out Cursed. Along with Joshua Jackson as well.
The bottom line is, Welling MAY get work, but I seriously doubt he's gonna get a HUMONGOUS franchise INDEPENDENT of Smallville/Superman. He'll probably piddle around from role to role. He may even make 'BJ' proud!
But his BEST BET is to go where the MONEY is at!
Steve, I know we've all thought for years that the problem was Al & Miles because of the whole 'no tights, no flights' rule, but obviously there's more here than meets the eye. Does this mean that technically we MIGHT could've already SEEN the SUIT on Smallville if it WERE NOT for WELLING?! :(
Yes, non-amos...It would seem we may owe Al & Miles an apology. Not a big one because they did really screw things up with their love of Lana, but as far as the tights are concerned, Welling may have been the one to keep it from happening.
ReplyDeleteI've heard early interviews with him and the only thing he ever mentioned was being afraid of typecasting. During Season 1 (possibly 2) he did say he wasn't sure how he'd look in tights, but never said he wouldn't wear them.
This doesn't mean we will never see it happen, but it is highly likely to remain what I've said many times in that the series final episode will give us one quick glimpse of him as Superman at the end.
Tom Welling is sabotaging any sort of "future career" he may have. His agent should be kicking the dollar signs into his head, instead of "Tom, babe, we don't need to wear no tights!!"'ing him. I mean, look at poor Christian Bale. Dude CAN'T catch a break, being stuck in that Bat-suit for TWO films now!
ReplyDeleteWhatever, he was never my #1 choice anyway. Would I have been upset if he DID play Supes on the "big screen"? Not even a little. Will I shed tears that he REFUSES TO? No sir.
Superman is BIGGER than YOU, Mr. Welling. Go ask Tom Selleck how he feels about turning down Indiana Jones NOW....
Yea the whole thing with tom and tights i dont really know what is true or not. But i known he was official for the next season for awhile now. But if he is worried about tights they could easily do a non tights looking outfit for him to wear. Heck he was willing to wear ollie's costume a few seasons back. If its something in that line i would think he would be open to it. But yea i doubt expect him to be in a costume all of next season. Atless towards the end of the season.
ReplyDeleteEverybody likes money, but Welling doesn't come off to me as a guy who is doing this for the money. He's probably already set for life. He seems to be a guy who likes his privacy since we don't see him do too many interviews. He seems to have his feet firmly planted. The producers said in an interview the other day that he was resisting putting on the suit, but imo it didn't come off as he would NEVER do it. That it'll be later rather than sooner. I don't know Welling from Adam, but he comes off to me as a guy who would be satisfied doing smaller films as opposed to the publicity grabbing, privacy invading, big budget movie.
ReplyDelete"Go ask Tom Selleck how he feels about turning down Indiana Jones NOW...."
ReplyDeleteHe didn't WANT to turn it down. He was forced to turn it down because of his contract with Magnum PI. But, if they would have allowed him he was going to take it. He wanted to do it very badly.
This doesn't bother me because I never expected to see him in the suit until the last episode. I think they want to put him in the suit NOW and he doesn't want to do it. Nothing wrong with that. I still think he won't have a problem doing it for the final episode.
And, in all honesty, that's when I want him to do it. I want to feel that build up to that moment. I don't want it to happen in episode 9-1 and then have him hardly wear it because they can't afford to have Superman in every episode.
Wrighty...
ReplyDeleteI agree that it should only be the final episode. I was hoping that was happening in 2 weeks. The build up to me has been perfect so many times, but then they toss Lana back in or Chloe or something that just derails the whole show for me. These filler episodes that are virtually meaningless and just take up space to meet the episode requirements are why I prefer to TiVo shows and watch them later if people say they were good.
Appropos of nothing, didn't CBS prevent Selleck from taking the Indy Jones role?
ReplyDeleteAll this means for sure is that Tom doesn't want to wear the tights on the show. Given the shows no tights/no flights policy, I don't see why this is so surprising.
ReplyDeleteGuys, emijayne, Steve himself, the fuckpoles at IESB and others all mentioned Welling's interest in JLA. There's simply too much smoke there for there to be no fire. He also spoke to Ratner about headlining his Superman film. If Welling doesn't want to wear the outfit on the show, well, it's understandable in many ways.
Not wanting to in general? That's a separate discussion but I'm not convinced that's how he feels.
"He didn't WANT to turn it down. He was forced to turn it down because of his contract with Magnum PI. But, if they would have allowed him he was going to take it. He wanted to do it very badly."SHOCKER!! swright is WRONG AGAIN!!!
ReplyDeleteTom Selleck had a CHOICE. Filming of Magnum P.I. had NOT YET STARTED, and he was offered the role of Indiana Jones. He was soooo "confused" that he got together with a friend to weigh the "options", and he decided to honor his contract with Universal. Shooting on the pilot was delayed 6 months, which WOULD have given him time to shoot Raiders. Unfortunately for him, he had ALREADY turned it down.
Score another one for the GOOD GUYS....
"Everybody likes money, but Welling doesn't come off to me as a guy who is doing this for the money. He's probably already set for life."
ReplyDeleteYa know, I hate to say it, but Welling MAY be setting us up for disappointment. Deliberately? No, probably not. I don't think he's being mean-spirited or anything. I just think that Welling has a WEIRD way of dealing with his success.
You see how he portrays Clark on Smallville? Now, I'm not against a 'moral code' or anything, but sometimes HIS Clark is just TOO much. I mean, refusing his destiny while clinging to his morals, or perceived morality, yet lying to everyone around him. Then getting his butt kicked constantly by the latest FOTW because of his unwillingness to grow a pair. I mean, look at Davis/Doomsday. Ollie was right! Clark NEEDS to take him out for the sake of the WORLD, but he WON'T, because of his ethics. HE'D die first, right? And we're talking about destroying a MONSTER here, NOT a human, or even a TRUE Kryptonian. Gimme a break!
But getting back to Welling. Here I potentially see a guy who is even reluctant to have a successful acting career. It's almost like you or I might react. Suddenly get thrust into the spotlight, with a successful TV series, portraying a very well-known character, & then not be able to deal with it all. In essence, it's like he just wants out, so he can go back to his 'private' life & just fade into the background.
So can't you imagine it, that Welling may INDEED become like 'where's Waldo'? He'll probably go back home, financially set, but then pursue his hobbies & charities & what-not. We MAY see him pop up once in a while on some reality show, or American Idol or some such nonsense, as a 'guest celebrity', but I dare say there's a good chance that he COULD completely abandon his acting career per se.
Wasn't he originally a construction worker? Nothing wrong with that, but wouldn't it be something if 5-10 years down the road that we find out he's a contractor or something like that, & that he PREFERS that to what he had on Smallville?
And I think, in that WORST CASE SCENARIO, that it's US, the fans, who will ultimately be screwed! :(
Colors is absolutely right.
ReplyDeleteNot wanting to wear the tights on the show does by no means rule him out of being the next superman on the big screen.
This shouldn't surprise people AT ALL, Welling has been quite open about his concern regarding the whole typecast issue. He doesn't want to get typecast as superman and hopes he can avoid this by not wearing the suit "on the show". The big screen however is a different discussion altogether. Wearing the tights on smallville can hurt him as he would forever be sealing his image as superman and that's all people would see, and what has he gotten in return for it? Nothing more than the same paycheck he's received for all these years he's been playing the same character WITHOUT the suit.
Playing big screen superman can be very lucrative for him and is a way in the movie business that will open doors hell of a lot more than smallville ever has. So really, as far as I'm concerned, this no biggie.
We all know that Welling is a huge guy that clearly surpasses the previous actors in size, and he's been wearing that tight blue shirt on smallville for years now. One needs nothing more than to imagine a cape on him to see what he'd look like as superman.
But I do understand however how some fans feel cheated out of seeing "superman" as WE know him in the final episode. I've always had the same hopes for it myself, but I have always had a slight hope that Welling wouldn't do it on smallville but just move over to the big screen and continue from there.
This can also be a road block by WB movie division. As lucrative of having a show about Superman, it is more lucrative to have Superman on screen. WB is probably telling producers not to show the suit.
ReplyDeleteI think if Welling is smart he would put a suit on at the last episode (of course to tease the audience)then negotiate with WB to give him a chance of other roles in addition to Superman. Sadly without Superman his career will go nowhere.
"You see how he portrays Clark on Smallville? Now, I'm not against a 'moral code' or anything, but sometimes HIS Clark is just TOO much. I mean, refusing his destiny while clinging to his morals, or perceived morality, yet lying to everyone around him. Then getting his butt kicked constantly by the latest FOTW because of his unwillingness to grow a pair. I mean, look at Davis/Doomsday."
ReplyDeleteWhat does this have to do with how Tom portrays Clark? Last time I checked Tom Welling has yet to write an episode.
"Tom Selleck had a CHOICE. Filming of Magnum P.I. had NOT YET STARTED, and he was offered the role of Indiana Jones. He was soooo "confused" that he got together with a friend to weigh the "options", and he decided to honor his contract with Universal. Shooting on the pilot was delayed 6 months, which WOULD have given him time to shoot Raiders. Unfortunately for him, he had ALREADY turned it down."
Which of course he didn't know at the time he made his decision. My POINT was that he didn't WANT to turn it down. He wanted to do it. But, as you said, he already signed a contract. There's no doubt that if they delayed the season before he made his decision he would have taken the Indy role. He's been very open in interviews about how much he wanted to do it.
"The build up to me has been perfect so many times, but then they toss Lana back in or Chloe or something that just derails the whole show for me. These filler episodes that are virtually meaningless and just take up space to meet the episode requirements are why I prefer to TiVo shows and watch them later if people say they were good."
Yeah, I agree that Lana just completely derailed the momentum of the season this year. I think the problem was that they wanted a 9th season from the get go. The girl who place Tess just did an interview with Newsarama and she said that it was 50/50 on renewal up until the last minute. I think next year, since there is no way they are going to get a 10th season, they will be much more focused on bringing the series to a close. Which, for me, I am kind of thankful for. I would have been upset if they just tacked on a canned ending at the end of this season because they never wanted it to end in the first place.
This way, they know that they HAVE to wrap it up and will HOPEFULLY set their storyline up to reflect that. Next year is rumored to feature Intergang heavily as well as ZOD(played by Sam Witwer). The ZOD thing has been spreading ever since there was a picture of a little girl who was in the finale in the make up room sitting in the make up trailer that had a picture of Sam Witwer with a goatee. Since he's never had one on the show and we know from an earlier episode that Davis is the spitting image of ZOD, the speculation is now that he will be coming back. Especially with the producers admission that somebody from the shows past is coming back and is going to pay a big role in next years storyline.
"Which of course he didn't know at the time he made his decision. My POINT was that he didn't WANT to turn it down. He wanted to do it."
ReplyDeleteReally? THAT was your point??
"He didn't WANT to turn it down. He was forced to turn it down because of his contract with Magnum PI. But, if they would have allowed him he was going to take it. He wanted to do it very badly."
I emboldened your ACTUAL POINT. He was NOT "forced" to turn it down, he had a CHOICE. Do Raiders, and lose Magnum P.I. PERMANENTLY, or honor his contract and lose his role in Raiders of the Lost Ark. He CHOSE to honor his contract with Universal.
Jesus, can't even admit he's WRONG. Typical for his "kind"...
". He was NOT "forced" to turn it down, he had a CHOICE. Do Raiders, and lose Magnum P.I. PERMANENTLY, or honor his contract and lose his role in Raiders of the Lost Ark. He CHOSE to honor his contract with Universal."
ReplyDeleteAnd, what do you think they would have done if he had tried to back out of a signed contract? He honored it because he HAD TO. Yes, he CHOSE to honor the contract, but it's not as simple as just picking which one he wanted to do. You sign your name to a contract, there are legalities that are unavoidable.
Regardless, this is just semantics. And, time to get back on point before our dislike of each other hijacks the thread.
Except YOU thought you would "show me" after I made my CORRECT statement.
ReplyDeleteTry to rationalize your being WRONG all you want, Apologist. Tom Selleck COULD have taken Raiders if he WANTED TO. See what Marvel did to Terence Howard? There ARE ways out of a contract, and it happens in Hollyweird EVERY DAY.
Now I will direct this back on topic, since YOU tried to "derail" it.
Tom Welling ISN'T going to play Superman on the big-screen. Some of you are starting to sound like BJ Routh fans, and it's unsettling. There is no such thing as "typecasting" anymore, so go ahead and drop that EXCUSE.
As much as I would like Welling in the role of Superman, its seems he does not want the role. That is his prerogative. I just hope they don't cast another Routh (or Routh himself).
ReplyDeleteMy question to all is who would want to play the role? What are your criteria?
I know I want an established actor who can act and have the physical prowess to pull it off Supernam and Clark Kent. I don't want a Reeve clone either
I still say George Eads
ReplyDeleteI think had he NOT been in the craptastic FF films, Chris Evans COULD have played Superman.
ReplyDeleteHe is "charismatic", funny, can put on muscle-mass and has a decent "Superman look". Plus, he's a MUCH better actor than BJ Routh.
The "best" choice? No. But since WB more than likely WON'T go the "unknown" route again, *COUGH*BJ the Bartender*COUGH*, he's a name to throw out there.
For a fairly decent Chris Evans film, I recommend SUNSHINE. It's kind of a strange film, slow moving in parts, but it's science fiction & also stars Cillian Murphy, same guy from Nolan's Batman films & I believe is directed by Danny Boyle, same guy who did the 28 Days/Weeks films & Slumdog Millionaire. Evans' acting in this film is fairly serious & not silly like the F4 films. There's also a neat scene where they have to jump from one ship to another & Evans' character has to do so WITHOUT an astronaut suit OR oxygen.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if you ever saw it back in the 70's, but there was a film then called SILENT RUNNING which I loved growing up but never fully understood, that is, until the past year or so when I saw it again online. THEN I fully understood it & actually liked it MORESO. I'd compare SUNSHINE to that film as far as being similar.
Sounds like we'll probably see a CGI Superman in the finale then
ReplyDelete...and then again, if they want him to wear the costume Ruth wore, can you blame him?
ReplyDeleteIT'S ALL HYPE!
ReplyDeleteHe will wear the suit in season 9, and maybe season 10 if they have one.
I think he was at first against it because he wanted to either do it for the big screen or not at all since he didn't want to wear the suit on the show but as it looks like the WB won't make a movie using him I think they just loaded his contract for season 9 so he would wear the suit.
He will probably wear it for the final few episodes, and that will send off the show, and if another season is signed for after 9 then he might have to wear it the entire season...
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What's going on, everyone go on vacation?
ReplyDeletenothing to really talk about. We have nothing for superman on film and smallville folks are probably waiting for injustice on thursday to talk more. Plus there hasnt been any other news on smallville.
ReplyDeleteOkay I'll throw in...
ReplyDeleteAnyone know what to make of this?
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Thoughts? Wonder what keep watching the skies means???
Also hear about Tarantino gettin ready to post a 20 page review defending Singerman??? LMAO cant wait...
ReplyDeleteWhat the hell is Tarantino smoking again? That's all we need.
ReplyDelete"Keep Watching The Skies", what are they remaking "The Thing, From Another World" again?
You know know that directors never issue disparaging comments to another colleague....I can imagine the mess that Superman would be if Tarantino directed Superman.
ReplyDeleteCast
Superman/Clark Kent John Travolta
Lois Lane Uma Thurman
Jor-el Harvey Kietel's Head
Lex Luthor Samuel L. Jackson
Perry White Ving Rhames
Jimmy Olson Tarantino
An epic battle set in the mid 1970s. Superman (with a blue and red sweatsuit) attempts to stop Lex Luthor from distributing illegal 8 track tapes and hash.
HEY!!!!! I LIKE 8-track tapes! ;)
ReplyDeleteWell, for one thing, it's not about Superman. Dougherty was canned before Singer. Public knowledge. However, after reading this and making a call, he may be involved with getting another comic franchise off the ground, but no deals have been made so that's as far as going with that statement.
ReplyDeleteTarantino gave the interview wearing high heels. Considering that no critic or fan could possibly have 20+ pages of nice things to say about SR, there has to be another meaning to it.
Tarantino wearing high heels? That sounds like a Singerman Apologist
ReplyDeleteYeah, can't you imagine Tarantino in a Superman film? He'd probably have his 5-10 minute cameo as some guy they had to come to for something very important to the story. For his total screen time, over 90% would probably be spent spewing obscenities. Just what we need for a family Superman film.
ReplyDeleteAnd it's been a long time since I watched PULP FICTION, but wasn't he named 'Jimmy' in that film? Anyone remember?
Yeah his name was Jimmy, he had to help Travolta and Jackson clean the Brains from the back seat of a car
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Looks like he's 'doing' Dylan Dog after all. Comments? AP? :)
No takers on the latest X-ploits of 'BJ' Routhman? Seriously, you guys, you disappointment me! ;)
ReplyDeleteWhat do you expect, they took all the Tim Burton/Sleepy Hollow jokes already...
ReplyDeleteCheck out my new website! Hope everyone likes it, and joins up... I have placed a banner from SupermanHomePage.com on my page to show respect for this site.
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Sure he's filming it. But he filmed The Informers too. How'd he do in that? He got completely edited out. When this flops like Catwoman did, maybe they'll figure out he's only suited for soap opera television.
ReplyDeleteYou know something i love coming to this site for news and info, but you closed your last site because of what it had turned into, and this site continues to go the same way. Everyone knows you guys don't like Routh, but the fact that you guys continue to bash on him for no apparent reason on a thread that is about SMALLVILLE, and not Routh. It is solely for that reason that you continue to lose credibility Steve. I am not an apologist and regardless of my like or dislike of the SR film, do i want to always hear about how gay this damn actor is because of whatever reason someone comes up with. Yes i understand it is a blog for everyone to freely express their opinion, but come on. (and if it makes you guys feel any better, their were things i greatly disliked about Returns)
ReplyDeletetoad man, I agree completely. Steve, if you want to maintain any sort of credibility, the way to go about doing that is NOT to let every blog post into a routh bash-fest. And don't even get me started on the gay bashing.
ReplyDeleteexcuse me, I made an error in the structure of one of my sentences: the way to go about doing that is Not to let every blog post TURN into a routh bash-fest.
ReplyDeleteI posted that about BJ Routhman HERE because I really didn't know where ELSE to post it. Back on the website, I could just start a thread to discuss his latest x-cursions, but here on this blog, I can't start a thread. So what do I do?
ReplyDeleteSteve, this does raise an interesting dilemma. The most recent blog thread you start is obviously gonna be the one with the most traffic. However, for discussing Smallville or whatever else may be relevant, we MAY have to go several blog threads back. The problem with that, though, is that it might get overlooked.
The other day I had an idea as to how they could handle the Superman reboot, but where NOW do I put it? I'd also like to comment on how Star Trek is doing, that is, in relation to how they gave it new life & what ramifications that SHOULD have for the Superman reboot.
Yeah, the website DID have certain advantages, INCLUDING being able to have a thread with 'BJ' as the bullseye.
You know...After seeing what JJ Abrams did with the new Star Trek(incredible) I would give him another shot. Obviously he is aware that the changes he wanted to make were not liked, so I think he can learn from that experience and give us a great film.
ReplyDeleteHe finally gave THIS Star Trek fan a movie that he can be proud of and in return make me not as embarrassed to say that I'm a Star Trek fan. My friends, who never saw one episode of any of the Treks, are now asking me to explain to them the significance of certain things and give them a basic history of Trek. He accomplished his goal of making a kick ass film that would bring in new fans, and satisfy enough of the original fanbase to make Star Trek relevant again.
I say give him another shot at a script and see what he can come up with.
About the BR stuff.....I don't get the continued attention being paid to his career. And, the continued wishes to see him fail at life. The movie's done, he's not coming back. Let the man live his life and try and make a career for himself and his family. The man's only crime, for some, is being miscast and being in Singers movie.
He didn't set out to destroy the Superman franchise..He didn't pick out the Superman costume he wanted to wear.
Whatever his sexual orientation is shouldn't be an issue anymore. I get why Singers was an issue, but unless he is cast in the role in any future movie (I have as much of a chance of that happening to me) then who cares?
Toad does make a good point. Let's keep this site free of that kind of stuff so that the respect and credibility that was lost can be gained again. There are other sites that you can go to, to attack Routh for anything else he chooses to do in life. That kind of stuff is the reason we are posting on a blog and not the site.
YEa it was nice when it was the website to talk about smallville, superman and other related films in our own mannor. But we know things did get out of hand at times which was dragging the site down. Hopefully we all wont fall into that problem again. I wish and hope we all one day soon(i hope) get the type of film we want out of superman.
ReplyDeleteWell, tonight's the night. I maintain that Tess will be pushing up daisies by the time credits roll.
ReplyDeleteGuesses?
Didn't someone say that CLARK is supposed to die tonight? What's that about Ollie shooting him with a kryptonite arrow? Is THAT how it happens, or is it Davis Doomsday?
ReplyDeleteKill Clark off BEFORE he's Superman? Surely not! But they killed Lex off when he SHOULD'VE reached a ripe old age, just like Kirk's father, so it's anyone's guess with THIS continuity.
Also, will the cliffhanger be Clark's death? And I'd suggest that at SOME point they bring Lex back, because you don't just kill off Luthor. That's retarded! Have Michael Rosenbaum come back for the SERIES finale, if not before, for some guest appearances. Also have a plausible explanation for what happened when Ollie thought he killed Lex, like maybe Lex had anticipated that someone might make such a move, so he had a double & faked the DNA, or it was a clone, or SOMETHING, but whatever they do, bring back Rosenbaum's Lex! You already know from watching THIS version of Lex that he ALWAYS came prepared!