Doubtless you've all seen the videos by now but just to be safe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfA2vSwYeIc
This video was shot at Comic Con by an enterprising audience member. To my knowledge, this is the best quality version of the season 10 portion of the footage that's out there.
It seems clear that at some point or another this season, Tom Welling will actually wear The Suit. My guess? Episode 200 airs pretty early this season. That might be an ideal spot for that to happen. That's only speculation on my part though.
As I personally feel less and less enthusiasm for the Nolan/Goyer reboot as time goes by and more stories leak out, it looks like 'Smallville' is pretty much the centerpiece of my Superman fandom these days. So here's hoping.
- colors
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What's up with the sound quality & such on that Youtube vid? Must definitely be bootleg!
ReplyDeleteThe suit does actually have RED colors but the S-shield still has that raised effect like Singerman. However, the 'S' itself doesn't really look like Singerman but more like I'm used to. I'm wondering how Jonathan Kent figures into all of this though? And what was that with what was supposed to be Lex at the end, along with Lionel? And was that Brainiac I saw?!
Colors, as for the Nolan/Goyer reboot, I can understand your concern due to Nolan's 'ultra-realism' but hopefully since he's NOT directing it or writing it then just maybe the film franchise will get the treatment it really deserves. As for 'stories that leaked', can you provide some links? I read various SHH crap weeks ago but has there been something NEW reported, like maybe story ideas, etc.? One thing I DON'T think it'll be like is SINGERMAN!
On a Nolan-related note, I read an article that was originally linked from SHH about the Justice League film that never was. There was ANOTHER article about, get this, the stars in INCEPTION are vying for the role of the RIDDLER in the 3rd Batman film, including Leonardo DeCaprio. It seems that even NOLAN is pushing WB for this. Now I haven't seen Inception but it looks like it must really be a winner. YOUR thoughts on THIS development as well?
non_amos (IF that is really my name) ;)
"What's up with the sound quality & such on that Youtube vid? Must definitely be bootleg!"
ReplyDeleteUm, yeah, I think that's fairly well accepted. I said it's the best I've found. Never said it was perfect.
"The suit does actually have RED colors but the S-shield still has that raised effect like Singerman."
Yeah. That torques me off too. It's friggin retarded. The emblem needs to be silk-screened onto the shirt. I don't give a flying shit what Donner invented for his movies, the outfit is supposed to be homemade... and it should look just a bit homemade. It's not a difficult concept.
"However, the 'S' itself doesn't really look like Singerman but more like I'm used to. I'm wondering how Jonathan Kent figures into all of this though? And what was that with what was supposed to be Lex at the end, along with Lionel? And was that Brainiac I saw?!"
I have no idea what the Lionel thing was supposed to be about since Glover is not presently doing any more episodes. I have no idea at all what the bald guy thing is about either.
"Colors, as for the Nolan/Goyer reboot, I can understand your concern due to Nolan's 'ultra-realism' but hopefully since he's NOT directing it or writing it then just maybe the film franchise will get the treatment it really deserves."
Well, right now the scuttlebut is that either David Goyer or Jonathan Nolan will direct the movie. Assuming that's true, either a crappy screenwriter/worse director will lead the production or else someone with literally *ZERO* directing experience will.
I can't get excited about either prospect.
"On a Nolan-related note, I read an article that was originally linked from SHH about the Justice League film that never was. There was ANOTHER article about, get this, the stars in INCEPTION are vying for the role of the RIDDLER in the 3rd Batman film, including Leonardo DeCaprio. It seems that even NOLAN is pushing WB for this. Now I haven't seen Inception but it looks like it must really be a winner. YOUR thoughts on THIS development as well?"
I'd not heard that but I'm prepared to take your word for it. But honestly? I'm not as impressed with Chris Nolan's casting abilities as other people seem to be.
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Well, he hasn't cast ANYONE for Superman yet. Keep that in mind...
ReplyDeleteAnd what the fuck? Did they turn this site over to YOU, colors? They toss in the towel for good this time?
"Well, he hasn't cast ANYONE for Superman yet. Keep that in mind"
ReplyDeleteThat's something else, I fear getting another metrosexual pretty boy who plucks eyebrows and shaves his chest.
"And what the fuck? Did they turn this site over to YOU, colors?"
Um, ouch.
"They toss in the towel for good this time?"
I dunno. I tried the old password again the other night and it logged me in.
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"Um, ouch."
ReplyDeleteWasn't a knock on you. Just surprised ANYONE did anything with this place......
"That's something else, I fear getting another metrosexual pretty boy who plucks eyebrows and shaves his chest."
Since Nolan hasn't really done that before, and his brother WILL be the director, I don't see that happening.
Then again, who the fuck knows??
Colors, the Donner costume is the one. It's Singer's gay redesign that we have concerns with.
ReplyDeleteIt has been stated that that costume in the trailer is a work in progress. That costume is seen a couple of times in the first episode, then a variation of it reappears later in the series
FFC
"They toss in the towel for good this time?"
ReplyDeleteI dunno. I tried the old password again the other night and it logged me in."
LOL!
I suppose Steve leaves his all personal information lying about the internet too! No wonder he can't keep his woman.
Father Finian
Hadn't heard that. Hope you're right though. It makes sense to have a "designy" type of outfit for some superheroes but Superman's costume is elegant in its simplicity. The entire point is that he doesn't need all kinds of ridiculous bullshit on his costume.
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Speaking of Steve, what's the latest on the 'Archangel' sightings lately? ;)
ReplyDeleteAlso, I haven't even been over to 'duh Homopage' yet to check out the rumblings about these developments but apparently Father Finian has. Maybe I will when I have time. Father, you or anyone else able to fill me in on what idiocy is going on over there about this?
I'm sure Steve is posting over on Counting Down. Probably useful stuff about how much divorces suck or ranting about his iPod going tits up.
ReplyDeleteI was banned from the Younis page a while back and remain too lazy to set up a proxy but I hear tell that several of Herr Younis's Apologists and Bailey Youths are now championing Tom Welling for the reboot.
If true, piss on 'em. They spent years singing BJ The Bartender's praises and banning anyone with a different opinion. These days, they can all fuck off as far as I'm concerned.
- colors
"Apologists and Bailey Youths are now championing Tom Welling for the reboot.
ReplyDeleteIf true, piss on 'em. They spent years singing BJ The Bartender's praises and banning anyone with a different opinion."
What gets me about that, if you really THINK about it, is that Smallville came on TV in 2001. Welling had a solid 5 years before Brandon 'BJ' Routhman even had a shot at it. Yet duh apologists, who CLAIM to be from a SUPERMAN site, turned on Welling in favor of their 'BJ'. All these years spent bashing Welling & NOW they want to embrace him?!
PATHETIC to say the least!
Ya know what I don't get? I would seriously wager that I've watched Singerman more than any of you. Back in 2006 and '07, I tried and tried and tried and motherfucking TRIED to see what's supposed to be so wonderful about Singerman in general and BJ The Bartender in particular. I just don't see it. I really don't. He can't act for shit, his voice has this weird "quivery" quality to it most of the time, his body language is stiff and unexpressive, his facial expressions convey nothing (at least, not what he intends them to convey; he looks like a creepy stalker in some scenes, even some not so obvious ones), etc etc etc. Ya know that bit where he says "it's still the safest way to travel"? He sounds like a fucking credit card commercial! "It's EVERYWHERE you want to BE". Seriously dude, tell me, what the hell do the Apologist fucktards see in this guy that I'm obviously missing?
ReplyDeleteI've never once seen an Apologist answer that question. "Oh, I recognize the movie's flaws but I love it anyway" or "maybe the costume wasn't perfect, but I love it anyway" or "the effects were kind of sucky in some scenes, but I love it anyway". Any of us could sit here and point out myriad flaws, weaknesses, shortcomings and just plain bad ideas in that movie (and HAVE!) and all the Apologists can say basically is "yeah, I agree, but I love it anyway".
Cripes, I've got to quit doing this, I'll give myself a heart attack.
- colors
Ya know what, fuck it, I'm coming back to this.
ReplyDeletePeople say Blandon Routh didn't have much to work with in the Singerman script. And ya know what? I'd agree with that. But here's the deal for any Apologist douchebags reading this. Reeve didn't have much to work with in the STM script.
Yeah, that's right, I said it.
Take away Reeve and the Williams score and you've got strong first and second acts but a kind of weak third act, goofy villains, Margot fucking Kidder, a basically non-existent Jimmy and a Superman who simply shouldn't be that rebellious.
If you'd put the lead role in ANY other actor's hands besides Reeve and I guarandamntee he would've fallen on his face and taken the movie with it.
But Reeve NAILED it. He's just captivating to watch. Even his small mannerisms and facial tics all work toward building the character.
Routh had a similar opportunity in Singerman. True, he had even less to work with than did Reeve but the point is that Routh could've... well, maybe not saved Singerman but he sure as hell could've made it more palatable. He had the chance to do the same thing Reeve did in taking a movie with some at best shaky ingredients and really turn in a solid, memorable performance.
Routh fell on his face and took the movie with it. Period, end of story.
Is it Blandon's fault that the script sucked from Day One? No, of course not. But it is his fault that he couldn't muster the energy and charisma God gave a plank of wood and turn in an engaging, magical performance.
He. FAILED. Period. Anything else people want to add is just an excuse to justify piss poor acting from an actor who should've never been given that part. I don't care what anybody says, Blandon Routh had his shot, he muffed it up and we need to find a REAL Superman now.
- colors
"I've never once seen an Apologist answer that question."
ReplyDeleteActually, the one I see most now is "da ruth wuz da best ding abut swooperman returds! is wunt hiz fallt dat der was abad scrips and da durecter suxz!!"
They never say WHAT about him was "the best", they just repeat that bullshit ad-nauseum. On top of that, they somehow "believe" the MAJORITY agree with them!? Yeah, BJ starring in..... Um..... Let's see.... Wait a sec... Oh yeah! FUCK ALL since Singerman FLOPPED showed how much the general public enjoyed his "acting", huh?
In the end, it doesn't matter at all. BJ is done, and soon any type of "career" he might have had will be too.
"But it is his fault that he couldn't muster the energy and charisma God gave a plank of wood and turn in an engaging, magical performance."
ReplyDeleteYou know, I just recently caught Zack & Miri on HBO, for free, and it truly amazed me how talentless BJ really is.
Seriously, watch him in that role, and than think about this: You could plug ANY no-talent reality-show douchebag in that role and have it come across the exact same way. Justin Long was the only one out of that pair to give his character some personality, and humor. BJ couldn't even draw on his own personal experiences to portray a homosexual! How fucking SAD is THAT??
I heard he has some stupid Italian comic "movie" that may or may not be released in theaters. I can't WAIT to follow the box office results for that steaming pile....
Oh, and if ANYONE from here goes to see Scott Pilgrim instead of The Expendables in two weeks?
Fuck you.
"As for 'stories that leaked', can you provide some links?"
ReplyDeleteGuess I overlooked this before. I dunno.
But there was some blurb thing Chris Nolan gave while doing, I think, a junket for Inception. In a nutshell, the prick's remark was basically "yeah, we're doing Superman, Goyer came up with a phenomenal twist on the story" or some such stupidity. It was along those lines.
Seriously? Is that really what you're gonna do? I mean, did I miss something? Why in the hell does everybody need to "modify" Superman every time a live action adaptation comes along? Is there a crime in just making a Superman movie that honors the comic books?
Fuck your "twist", you and the horse you rode in on, Nolan. Hey, that Joey Potter chick is probably not doing a whole lot these days, why don't you cast her as Lois?
Fucking hack.
Hell with it, I'm on a role.
ReplyDeleteThe Dark Knight? It was good but it wasn't all that. I don't give a flying fuck what anybody says, the villain in that movie wasn't the Joker. Yeah, sure, he was called the Joker but that's not who the Joker is. Never once did the audience ever get a sense of the Joker's demented whimsy (you know, his entire defining fucking attribute in the comics?); instead, they got a murderous Syd Vicious with green hair and Crow makeup. Big difference.
The Joker is defined by his deformities, bleached skin and all that. The Joker can't stop, he can't "take it off", he can't ever be anything other than what he is. Putting some fruitcake in makeup does not a Joker make.
But whatever, on top of that, TDK had plotholes that even Bryan Singer and his crew of high school writers must've looked at and thought "crap, now THAT is a plothole!" Seriously. "I don't want to kill you". Oh really? So the bullets you unloaded into Harvey Dent's armored truck when you thought he was Batman, that was just for show? Some fucking TDK Kool-Aid drinker is probably thinking "oh, that was only to lure Batman out". Okay, whatever. You're wrong, but whatever. So tell me, smart guy, why does the Joker proceed to beat Batman senseless with a lead pipe after siccing some dobermans on him? If he doesn't want to kill Batman, what the hell was his goal in that scene?
Since we're at it, why did Bruce put Harvey into that sleeper hold. "Durrr, the Joker was coming!" Okay. How did Bruce know that? There's no possible way he could've found out about the judge and the commissioner getting murdered and he for damn sure couldn't have logically deduced that Dent was next. We see those people die and for no friggin reason, Bruce knocks Harvey out. P-L-O-T-H-O-L-E.
TDK works as big, dumb, retarded popcorn cinema. On those terms, it's a great ride. Trying to critically analyze it as serious film, however, can only lead you to the conclusion that the movie's an incoherent fucking disaster.
And now this dickhead is leading the Superman reboot. Merry Christmas!
Wow, when this place dies down, it REALLY dies doesn't it?
ReplyDeleteI'm no "TDK Kool-Aid Drinker", but let me try to give my take on two of your points:
"Seriously. "I don't want to kill you". Oh really? So the bullets you unloaded into Harvey Dent's armored truck when you thought he was Batman, that was just for show?"
I actually think he wasn't trying to kill Batman at that point, he wanted to kill all the cops and take him away for himself.
Or, and this one makes more sense, the Joker knew Dent wasn't Batman.
How did I come to that conclusion? Well, newly Commissioner Gordon himself said something to the effect of "The Joker WANTED to be caught", so he could get to the Chinese guy. That it was what he was hoping would happen, and did.
As for this one, I thought it was obvious:
"So tell me, smart guy, why does the Joker proceed to beat Batman senseless with a lead pipe after siccing some dobermans on him? If he doesn't want to kill Batman, what the hell was his goal in that scene?"
To get Batman exactly where he ended up? So Batman could witness the Joker "winning", and have the two boats blow themselves up. And, failing that, he would blow them up right in front of him, Batman unable to lift a finger to help them.
Win-win for the Joker.
Just my take on things, and I don't think a lively debate around these parts would be a bad idea at all.
It's a semi-ghost town....
Hey look, if you dig on the movie, it's cool. Unlike other forums I can mention, we actually don't mind other people having their own thoughts and ideas.
ReplyDeleteAllz I'm saying is that the plot of TDK is swiss cheese and the fact that Nolan is now leading the Superman reboot is almost as alarming as the news that Singer was taking over had been back in 2004.
- colors
"Allz I'm saying is that the plot of TDK is swiss cheese and the fact that Nolan is now leading the Superman reboot is almost as alarming as the news that Singer was taking over had been back in 2004."
ReplyDeleteCome on now, let's not go overboard here. Nolan as "bad" as Singer? Not even the same SPORT, let alone ballpark.
I knew of Singers "proclivities" prior to him becoming the director. The lawsuit from Apt Pupil alone should have raised a red-flag to EVERYONE.
How about you wait for some news before you panic? I always figured you to be more level-headed than THAT....
Yeah Colors, I think you might be shipping some of your hatred of Singer onto Nolan there.....lol. Most of TDK holds water and is in another league compared to Singer's debacle. Nothing in Returns makes any fucking sense at all!
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